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Meet Up: Florida 2010


Men4Men.com panel discussion “The State of Gay in Florida” June 25 at the Studio@620 in St. Petersburg

ST. PETERSBURG, FL – MEN4MEN.COM® had our first ever “Meet Up” panel discussion focusing on the State of Gay in the Sunshine State” on Friday, June 25 starting at 5 p.m. at the Studio@620.

Attendees enjoyed wine and such as topics of discussion includes the status of legalizing gay marriage and adoption in Florida, the state of gays in the military and how repealing “Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell” will affect soldiers stationed in the sunshine state, what the rights of local life partners are in hospital decisions and what are the major health issues facing the gay community in the new century. Panelists are Air Force Captain Timothy Watson, local lawyer John Hixenbaugh and Dr. Roy Finley.

“We were delighted that such a diverse group of people were interested in learning more about gay issues in Florida, thanks to having the event on Pride Weekend,” said Dewey Davis-Thompson, Founder of MEN4MEN.COM®. “Our goal with MEN4MEN.COM® is to facilitate these kinds of discussions online and in at events like tonight. ” Check back for our next MEN4MEN.COM® MEET UP focusing on local gay groups and businesses networking.

ABOUT MEN4MEN.COM®

Men4Men was a Tampa Bay computer club (BBS) long before the days of the web. Today, Men4Men.com® is being re-imagined as an inclusive social hub for the gay community with professionally written articles on politics, culture and relationships as well local news and information provided by existing sources. Open to all genders and ages, men4men.com aspires to present and facilitate healthy lifestyle information and social opportunities like this Meet Up event.

THANK YOU TO OUR SPONSORS

American Stage, Adventures & Outings, Carter’s Florist, Greaton’s Jewelers, Internet Adept, Studio@620

THANK YOU TO OUR SPONSORS

American Stage, Adventures & Outings, Carter’s Florist, Greaton’s Jewelers, Internet Adept, Studio@620

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Be Careful What You Wish For

By Brian Feist

When I consider the debate over same-gender marriage a thought comes to mind that isn’t usually part of the dialog: “Be careful what you wish for.”

First, let me say that I am a staunch advocate for full marriage equality for same-gender couples. According to pro-marriage equality organizations, such as the National Center for Lesbian Rights, civil marriage, at the federal level, provides for some 1,500 legal rights and responsibilities that are virtually ironclad and guaranteed with a $35 (or whatever the going rate) marriage license and an “I do.” The Full Faith and Credit clause (Article IV) of the U.S. Constitution guarantees that for heterosexual married couples those rights are consistent and transferable throughout the United States, regardless of where the marriage was performed. (Thanks to “DOMA,” the Defense of Marriage Act, married same-sex couples are exempted from the Full Faith and Credit clause.)

In contrast, the rights afforded by state-sanctioned Civil Unions number in the low-to-mid hundreds, while municipally-granted Domestic Partner benefits generally top out at no more than a couple of dozen. Further, neither Domestic Partnerships nor Civil Unions are recognized outside of their home jurisdictions.

Couples not covered by local, state or federal regulations can have certain documents drawn up to provide for limited protections, but the cost of these documents can range from several hundred to several thousand dollars, and unless carefully drafted they can be challenged and overturned by “legal” relatives.

The bottom line is that all couples should have equal access to all of the rights and responsibilities of federal civil marriage without having to incur exorbitant costs in securing those rights.

Ironically, during the “sexual revolution” of the 1960s and 1970s, the “rights” of marriage were of little interest to those denouncing the “rites” of marriage. The mantra of the day was, “We don’t need a piece of paper to prove our love.” And they were absolutely correct. When a relationship is basking in the first bloom of love there is no need for the legal protections that come with a marriage license. It’s only when the relationship is threatened, whether from without or within, that the legal ramifications of marriage become important.

When most of us think of marriage equality we tend to think primarily of the rights and privileges associated with legal marriage. As soon as that marriage license is signed and notarized, your spouse is your legal heir and next-of-kin. With the stroke of a pen your legal spouse moves to the head of the line, ahead of Mom and Dad, your brothers and sisters, and any other blood relatives.

But let’s take a look at the flip side—the “fine print,” if you will, of the marriage contract. Let’s look at a few of the responsibilities that come with legal marriage.

Credit. We’ve all seen those ads on TV where the guy is singing about knowing your credit score. Well, he’s telling the truth. When you marry the love of your life, you’re also marrying his or her credit score. Later, when you go looking to buy your little “dream home,” your partner’s poor credit history can mean you can’t get a loan, even if you can afford it on your own income. At the very least, it may bounce you into a considerably higher interest rate, costing you tens of thousands of dollars over the life of your mortgage. The same holds true for buying a new car.

Bills. When unmarried couples have bills, each partner is only legally responsible for his or her own expenses. Not so for marrieds. If lover boy is a shop-aholic who has more shoes than Imelda Marcos and whose favorite pastime is “acquisition therapy,” you may be left holding more than the shopping bags. Maybe a few hundred dollars at Macy’s isn’t a problem, but bills aren’t limited to shopping binges. Suppose your sweetie is hospitalized with a serious illness. As the legal spouse, you not only get hospital visitation rights, you are also responsible for the expenses not covered by insurance.

Fidelity. As sexual mavericks who cannot legally marry, gay people have often crafted their relationships on their own terms. Some opt for traditional monogamy, while others prefer something more “open,” where sex outside of the relationship is permitted. Still others may even have a more communal arrangement, with three or more people involved. When someone breaks the rules the relationship may end, but it’s usually not much more complicated than picking up the pieces and going their separate ways. With legal marriage, however, things become much more complicated. Tricking with that hot number down the street can cost a lot more than a broken heart. Divorce can be messy and expensive, and if the guilty party is the primary breadwinner or there is considerable disparity in income, he or she can even be required to pay alimony.

These are just a few of the responsibilities that come with legal marriage. Am I suggesting that gays should not marry? Not at all. What I’m saying is, be careful what you wish for. Marriage equality will eventually be the law of the land, but marriage is more than a fancy wedding and Happily Ever After. It is a legally binding contract that we should not take lightly or rush into, just because it’s suddenly available. Know what you’re getting into before you say, “I do.”

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Gay Fathers Day: Two-Dad Families Doing Well in Transition to Parenthood

The first study ever to examine the experiences of gay male partners who became fathers via surrogacy shows that they are more likely than heterosexual fathers to scale back their careers in order to care for their children. Also, these fathers report that their self-esteem and their closeness with their extended families increases after becoming parents.
In most respects, life changes resulting from parenthood were very much like those experienced by heterosexual couples – closer relations with co-workers, a transition away from single friends toward other couples (straight and gay) with children, and less time for sleep, exercise, and hobbies.
The study involved 40 gay men who became parents through surrogacy, an assisted reproductive technique in which prospective parents contract with a woman to carry a child through pregnancy to birth. In most cases, the egg is obtained independently from a different woman (an “egg donor”) than the woman who carries the baby (the “surrogate”). The child is genetically related to one of the gay male parents. The surrogacy process is complex and very expensive, and participating couples in the study were affluent.
The study was conducted by four psychology researchers–Kim Bergman of Growing Generations in Los Angeles (a surrogacy agency), and Ritchie J. Rubio, Robert-Jay Green, and Elena Padrón of the Rockway Institute at the California School of Professional Psychology, Alliant International University, San Francisco. Study results were published in the latest issue of the Journal of GLBT Family Studies, 6:111-141, 2010.
The study gathered information from one partner in each of 40 couples through hour-long interviews conducted in person or by telephone. The parents’ median age was 41, and their average annual household income was $270,000. The median age of participants’ children was one year and ten months.
The study gathered information on four aspects of the participants’ experience as they transitioned to parenthood: 1) work and career changes, 2) lifestyle issues, 3) couple, family and friendship experiences, and 4) self-esteem and self-care.
Work and career changes included changing work life in terms of travel, hours and career path (reported by 70 percent of participants); going through occupational changes (65 percent); having sacrifices, losses and missed opportunities in work life (53 percent); and making changes in career goals (53 percent). The fathers reported that their relationships with peers at work improved, while their relationship with superiors at work remained the same. “It is noteworthy,” the researchers wrote, “that many of these gay fathers negotiated their career prospects downward and focused on their parenting responsibilities as being primary, at least for the time being while their children were so young… This is in sharp contrast to heterosexual fathers, who often augment their work hours and career commitments after having children.”
Lifestyle issues involved a variety of experiences, from buying a larger car or expanding the house to lower frequency and cost of travel. Nearly two-thirds of the new dads bought a new car or made changes in their housing to accommodate their child. Sixty percent hired child care assistance. Nearly all (90 percent) reported changing their business and leisure travel in terms of frequency, length of time, and cost. Two-thirds (65 percent) reported changes in their financial status. Eighty-five percent reported completing or updating their estate planning.
The new fathers encountered many changes in relations with family, friends and co-workers. The couples had been together an average of 12 years, and none had dissolved their relationship after becoming parents. They acknowledged a decrease in romance and personal intimacy with their partners, though they said their relationships remained romantic. Most fathers reported that relationships with their families of origin had become closer and that having a baby increased recognition of the couple as a family. Relations with co-workers often improved because of the shared parenting experience. The new dads reported changes to their social life, with fewer late-night and weekday engagements and a gradual trend toward socializing with other couples who have children, rather than single friends.
One of the notable findings was that having a child significantly improved the gay fathers’ self esteem. Nearly all (95 percent) said having a child “makes me feel good about myself” and that their self-esteem had improved since being a parent. The new fathers reported they were taking less care of themselves by sleeping and exercising less and devoting less time to hobbies, leisure activities and involvement in personal causes. Although their reported spirituality had not changed significantly, more of the new parents (an increase from 25 to 38 percent) reported they were attending religious services since adding a child to their family.
The researchers observed that the new fathers “felt extremely positive and proud about being parents… The narratives of the gay fathers in this study underscore how being a parent contributed to greater meaning in their lives… They derived pleasure and pride in taking care of their children, while they also received increasing validation from their families and their communities.”
“Our findings reinforce the growing research evidence that the sexual orientation of the parents makes little difference in parenting. At this early stage of child development, the infant’s or toddler’s needs drive the family interactions and structure the couples’ relationships with friends and relatives. This is as it should be. Gay couples are making major accommodations in their lives just like their heterosexual counterparts who become parents,” said Robert-Jay Green, PhD., executive director of the Rockway Institute.

The researchers’ next study will compare the psychological outcomes of children raised by heterosexual parents and children conceived via surrogacy and raised by gay male parents.
About Rockway Institute: The nonpartisan Rockway Institute promotes scientific and professional expertise to counter antigay prejudice and improve public policies affecting lesbian, gay, bisexual, and transgender (LGBT) people. The Institute’s view is that public opinion, policies, and programs should be shaped by the facts about LGBT lives, not by political ideology. A primary goal is to organize the most knowledgeable social scientists, mental health professionals, and physicians in the United States to provide accurate information about LGBT issues to the media, legislatures, and the courts. The Institute also conducts targeted research projects to address the nation’s most pressing LGBT public policy concerns. Website: www.rockwayinstitute.org
To obtain a copy of the original article as published:
Dr. Robert-Jay Green, Tel. 415-955-2121; Email: rjgreen@alliant.edu.
To contact the researchers for further information:
Dr. Kim Bergman, Growing Generations, LLC, Los Angeles, CA
Tel. 323-965-7500 ext. 4715; Email: kim@fertilitycounselingservices.com
Dr. Robert-Jay Green, Rockway Institute at Alliant International University, San Francisco, CA
Tel. 415-955-2121; Email: rjgreen@alliant.edu

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Education Survey

SECTION I: You  and Your High School Experience
Please take this survey and tell us about your environment and happenings. This survey collects data regarding education experiences of glbtq students including harassment and discrimination as well as exposure to gay role models and culture.
If you wish, enter the name of your High School or Secondary School here.
Location of your school.
What is your graduation year?
Your GPA
Your sex




Sexual Orientation:






How public are you about your GLBTQ identity? Please indicate  any/all areas that you are out.





Would you say you are completely \"Out of the Closet\"?


What age were you when you came out?
Were/are you out of the closet in high school?


Was/is there a GSA (Gay Student Alliance) at your school?


If so, was it openly supported by the teachers and/or administration?


Were/are you aware of any other GLBTQ students in your school?


SECTION II: The Classroom and GLBTQ Issues
Please make sure to answer these questions as honestly as you can and do not be afraid to include graphic material.
Were you ever given reading assignments that openly referenced or included GLBTQ themes? If so, please state the titles and authors.

Were GLBTQ issues ever discussed or referenced in the classroom?


Was homophobia ever discussed or referenced in the classroom?


Were religious topics or beliefs (i.e. God, the devil, Jesus, the Koran etc.) ever discussed or referenced in the classroom?


Were there any books/stories assigned that you personally felt had GLBTQ themes that were ignored or overlooked by teachers? If so, which books/author? Why?

What are some other GLBTQ authors/books that you’ve read for pleasure?

What information do you think would help a student who is struggling with his or her own GLBTQ identity?

SECTION III: Homophobia and Anti-GLBTQ Attitudes in Your School
Were homophobic/anti-GLBTQ attitudes common in your high school?


Were you ever called names for being identified as a GLBTQ student? If so, what names? Do not be afraid to be graphic!

Did any of your teachers and/or administrators tolerate, ignore or enforce homophobic/anti-GLBTQ attitudes? If so, explain how.

Were you ever openly threatened or attacked by other students for being identified as GLBTQ? If so, please give examples.

Do you feel homophobic/anti-GLBTQ attitudes can negatively affect the learning process and your overall experience in school?


Were you ever afraid to participate in class due to anxiety about being harassed for being GLBTQ?


Indicate any connections you observed between racism, sexism, ageism and homophobia/anti-GLBTQ attitudes.

Do you feel that homophobia/anti-GLBTQ attitudes were/are institutionalized at your school?


SECTION IV: Final Thoughts and Suggestions
What other questions could we ask?

Say anything that comes to mind!



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Men4Men Scholarship

Men4Men.com® is pleased to announce the Bart Greaton Scholarship for Gay History studies. This annual grant will be given to qualifying students of any gender or age who are pursuing a degree in gay studies, gay history or men’s studies at an accredited secondary institution.

Applicants will be judged on essays submitted for publication in Men4Men™ Magazine on the related topic that most inspires them and must also fill out an application by the August 1, 2010 deadline. This year’s scholarship will be $500 and the winner will be selected on August 31, 2010.

For additional details please email shannon@men4men.com

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